Social Validity

NOTE: I only came to this realisation a few weeks ago so am still working on a better way of detailing exactly how it works.

“If a women is interested in you she will GIVE you what you need to sleep with her”

Those words have improved my interactions with women 5 fold these past few weeks. In the begging I didn’t really understand the importance of them because I never use to really LISTION to what the women I was talking to where saying to me I was more focused on keeping the interaction going and getting to the next stage of the PU (pick up).

After I started to sloooow my interactions the fuck down and stopped trying to stay one step ahead, I started to notice that women really do GIVE you what you need to sleep with them. If you can be bothered to pay attention to what there saying they’ll drop “HINT’S” indirectly in to the conversation that let you know what stage your at in the interaction and where to go from there. I only just started to KEY into some of the stuff they’ll ask or tell you that implies where there mind is at in that present moment.

When we go some where but are not completely sure of the route to take to get there we rely on sign posts to guide us, this same analogy works when interacting with women.

Anyway am not one of these guys who like to post looong as posts lol so I’ll just throw you guys a few examples and what “I BELIEVE” them to mean when women bring them up. This is from MY OWN experiences.

HB: what’s your name = [am interested and want to get to know you better]

HB: where do you “live” or where are you staying (sometimes they’ll ask you this Q: more then once and want details) = [am considering may be going home with you tonight/2day.]

HB: let’s go over her (away from the group) = [am semi isolating my self for you]

HB: shit tests you = [I want to see if your really who you portray yourself to be]

That’s just a FEW of the many signs posts that let you know where to take the interaction next and where you are at at that monument in the interaction.

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Over the past few months I feel like iv really come far in my understanding of human to human interaction but there’s one thing that iv been wanting to touch on for a while and that’s Taking value/Giving value.

From going out into bars and clubs and socialising with people iv come to understand that these are the only 2 things really going on when a guy is interacting with women he finds attractive or a girl is interacting with a guy she finds attractive. Thorough the course of the interaction they will both be either Taking value or giving value to each other in SOME FORM.

It’s really hard for me to put this into words but it’s happening all the time, I mean for example on a night out you’ll see guys who are trying to grind girls on the dance floor or just blatantly hovering around them in a needy way with hungry eyes, you can latterly FEEL them wanting to TAKE VALUE from the girls in a, “haha LOOK at meeeee grinding this hot chick I am the shiiiiiiiiiiit haha” kind of way, instead of a
“LOOK at this girl TRYING to get in with me by grinding me”, the 2 are very different and noticeable.

Now from my experience iv come to the conclusion that girls trying to TAKE VALUE FROM ME works a lot more in my favour, that’s what negs/C-f are designed for, to make the girl want to attempt to take value from you by getting to know you.

Now don’t get me wrong Taking value/Giving value is not a bad thing if used probably in your favour.
You should always be the one offering value and not feel the need to forcibly TAKE others, like with AMOGing when you AMOG some one and they REACT it comes across as them trying to TAKE VALUE from you because they see you as someone worth reacting to, now if they where to say nothing you would be seen as the one trying to TAKE VALUE from them because your reacting to them.

When I approach am trying to approach in a why that says “am talking to you because “I” have SOOOOOO much VALUE am giving people the chance to take some of that for them self’s, so if your willing to put effort in to this interaction the only thing you’ll be doing is INCREASING your own value” and what person doesn’t want to increase there market value huh.

That’s all I got on this Taking value/Giving value thing so far will try and explain it in more detail when I gain a better understanding of it.

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Note: Iv only just started playing around with this concept for a few days its still in its early stages but I want to know what you guys think.

3 Levels Of Attraction

(Below is a diagram of the levels of attraction)

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Surface level attraction
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Base level Attraction
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Deep level Attraction

IV come to believe there’s 3 levels to attraction and depending on what level of attraction you get with a chick she will decide if she wants to see you again or sleep with you.

When I 1st started going out into the filed and getting numbers I would get LOADS of flakes and id just be like WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT lol because during the “initial” interaction the woman seemed to be having a blast, laughing with me and just generally having a good time.

What I didn’t realise was that at the time I had only generated a lot of SURFACE LEVEL ATTRACTION but no BASE LEVEL or DEEP LEVEL ATTRACTION was anchored into the interaction at the time, meaning when I left the surface level attraction I had created left with me.

Iv since gotten better at getting more base level and deep level attraction by reading the singes women give when they want to progress on to the next level of attraction (some girls only need LOADS of surface level attraction for you to fuck them eg: party woman).

Usually the sings I follow that she wants me to move on to the next level of attraction is by the amount of questions, kino, and positive body Lange she’s giving me.

When a women asks for my name (massive IOI) she’s telling me “flows101 please drop the gimmicks C/F, negs and hooks a bit and lets move onto basic base level attraction” or sometimes I’ll just fucking sense am creating FAR TO MUCH surface level attraction and just automatically drop all the gimmicks a bit and move onto the next level.

How to tell what level of attraction you’re on.

Surface level attraction:
From my experience so far when your in surface level attraction the girls are just having fun with you, there not taking you to seriously your just the next guy of the night helping them bump up there buying temperature.

Base level attraction:
From my experience you now you’re on base level attraction when she starts asking you general questions (eg: what’s your name, what do you do and how old are you) from my own experience if you where to take her number now she might not flake but would need further gaming over the phone before she would be willing to meet up with you or you could just go for the venue change.

Deep level attraction:
From my experience you know you’ve reached deep level attraction once you start talking about hopes, fears and dreams with a woman and you get the feeling you’ve known each other for months or years at this point you can usually go for the day 2 and KNOW its not goner flake or take her back to your place.

Note: Some guys just by there fucking aura, looks or social proof can go up to a women and get straight base level attraction in 0.01 second.

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Purpose Of This Blog
The purpose of this blog is to help as a personal archive for my study of social validity, this blog is also where i will place my thoughts and feelings on the subject of human to human interaction on every level.

About Me

Names: Flows101/102 - Flows4ever

Location: South Yorkshire

Date of birth: 1988

Profession: Social Scientist

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